Hospital’s position 1. Doesn’t the surgical consent form say “implant”? That implant means Gore-Tex or silicone. 2. Since you already signed that surgical consent form, it is essentially the same as having agreed. My position 1. Before surgery, we had agreed to proceed with replacing it with silicone, so why was Gore-Tex inserted? - Because this was a revision rhinoplasty, there was lifting, and because the condition of my nose was uneven, Gore-Tex was inserted. 2. I never received an explanation about a Gore-Tex implant, so how did I consent to it? - As I said above, “implant” on the surgical consent form includes everything. They said they couldn’t wake up a patient under anesthesia to ask, could they? This is the current situation. I feel like I’m going crazy. We talked about doing the surgery with silicone, and I naturally thought it would be silicone. These days, the trend seems to be removing Gore-Tex, and maybe because I’ve only seen bad reviews, I’m so anxious. What should I do? I said, “Before surgery, I consult with the doctor about the implant and then go into surgery; who proceeds based on the surgical consent form?” and they said the implant is decided only after opening the nose and checking the condition. I’m going back to the hospital to talk again. How should I talk to them so I can handle this well? ㅠㅠ Sigh, should I insist that they do a revision surgery no matter what? ㅠㅠ How is Gore-Tex..
haruholic Huh??? You’re supposed to decide on the material before checking the condition. They even tell you in advance what additional material they might use if there isn’t enough material?? How can they just vaguely brush it off like that?
또금 [@haruholic] I feel like I’m going crazy right now ㅠ I don’t know how to argue this properly.. I didn’t even hear an explanation, but they’re saying that since I already signed the surgical consent form, I consented. Ha
이뻐져라이얍 No, these days Gore-Tex isn’t even used much, and they must know people are reluctant about it, but they used it without consent? Are they insane?
또금 [@이뻐져라이얍] They say Gore-Tex is used a lot these days, that I shouldn’t worry too much, and that there isn’t a problem right now, isn’t that so. They say the consent is covered because “implant” is written on the surgical consent form and that includes everything.
미미 With Gore-Tex, the problem isn’t so much using it, but removing it later. It sticks to everything here and there, so there are many places that won’t remove it.
또금 [@] Right, I heard it’s a more difficult surgery when removing it. That’s why I’m so worried. I don’t know how I should confront the hospital, or whether I should ask them to change it to silicone once my nose recovers. Ha…
미 [@] Yes, I’m also very upset right now because what’s in my nose isn’t the implant I wanted. The hospital says they had no choice because the condition of my nose was bad, but honestly, that’s something I don’t know about.. I’m currently demanding a revision surgery once my nose recovers, but I’m wondering whether changing it to silicone is the right answer.
또금 Then everyone.. would it be better to have revision surgery with silicone once my nose recovers?
이뻐져라이얍 [@또금] Do you have a recording of the consultation?? Or maybe the doctor’s notes or consultation record saying they would use silicone?
또금 [@이뻐져라이얍] It isn’t written precisely as silicone in the consultation record either; it’s just written as implant. But in the surgery memo, there is a note saying silicone will be inserted.
이뻐져라이얍 [@또금] Then it seems worth questioning them thoroughly..? I was told silicone before going in, so why are they saying I consented after they suddenly wrote Gore-Tex? Of course I thought implant = silicone because I only heard an explanation about silicone. If it included Gore-Tex, I wouldn’t have consented. If there was a possibility of using Gore-Tex during surgery, they should have explained it in advance.
또금 [@이뻐져라이얍] But the hospital keeps saying separately that the surgical consent form says an “implant” will go into the nasal bridge, and that this implant includes Gore-Tex too. They say it’s already a part I consented to, ah..
미 [@] I asked which hospital it was because I wanted to see whether it’s right to get silicone there again, or whether they know how to do it. Whether it’s blacklisted or not, at the very least you shouldn’t look only here; you should check other communities too.
미 [@] I posted countless times in other communities and apps too, and worried about it, but no one commented. This is the first place where people have shown interest and commented like this.
또금 [@] I also searched a lot, but I only found reviews of removing it and revising with silicone. After searching and searching, this community had the most Gore-Tex reviews, so I came all the way here. What’s most urgent for me right now seems to be whether to remove the Gore-Tex and change to silicone. I think that’s the issue..
미 [@또금] I hope it gets resolved well
또금 [@또금] Thank you, Min-nim.. I’ll definitely post a review. Thanks to you, I still feel a lot of comfort
지워주 Wow, are they seriously insane?
또금 [@지워주] Thank you so much for getting angry with me. Honestly, in my heart I want to turn the place upside down, but it’s not easy. I’m not good at speaking, so I keep getting pushed back
행복열차 This is infuriating. If you end up removing it, I wonder if you should go to litigation.
또금 [@행복열차] I’m so upset. The hospital keeps showing the surgical consent form and saying that when they explained the implant, they did it, and don’t I see that I signed here? Honestly, I don’t think there’s any chance of winning even if I sue. Even though the surgery is already over and I try to think positively, I can’t. There are no side effects yet, but I’m wondering whether I should remove it in advance, or just keep it.
행복열차 https://www.lawmeca.com/41658-%EC%BD%94-%EC%84%B1%ED%98%95%EC%88%98%EC%88%A0-%EC%A0%84%EC%97%90-%EC%82%AC%EC%9A%A9%ED%95%A0-%EB%B3%B4%ED%98%95%EB%AC%BC%EC%9D%98-%EC%A2%85%EB%A5%98-%EB%B0%8F-%EA%B7%B8%EC%97%90%EB%94%B0%EB%A5%B8-/ Use the link above for reference. I think they should have explained the use of Gore-Tex in advance.
사휴 Since it was already revision surgery, you must have thought it over many times and chosen carefully. What is with a doctor who proceeds with surgery like that without any consideration for the patient? This is seriously absurd
행운코 Gore-Tex without consent.... Even though it wasn’t an emergency situation with no room for choice.., the doctor is *crazy..., ㅡㅡ Ah seriously.... Even among implants, there are many types, and that’s why you choose,... and discuss it... But putting it in however they want and then insisting as if it’s obvious...
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