Second round of visiting clinics: reviews of five places

I also attached photos for understanding the content: Shin Se-kyung, Hwa-min, and my pathetic photos too I had my first nose surgery about 12 years ago (almost 40 now) As far as I know, they used silicone for the bridge, shaved down the hump, performed osteotomy, and used septal cartilage for the tip I didn’t really notice any particular side effects, and although my nose tip has dropped quite a bit, I didn’t have the timing for surgery, so I just lived with it feeling fairly satisfied These days I have more time available for surgery, and a refined straight nose looks so pretty, so I’ve been going around for consultations What I learned while going around this time is that the silicone has shifted sideways and bent, and that the skin has thinned so there is visible show-through And I’m not sure whether it’s because of the septal harvest, because of double jaw surgery, or because I was just born that way, but there is a perforation behind the nose From below, the columella is also bent, and the scar under the nose is quite severe I must really be insensitive because I didn’t know any of this before going for consultations Honestly, when I put on makeup and look at my face in the mirror, it’s not bad in its own way But whenever I take photos, my side profile makes the nose tip look way too low, so I look like a mermaid or Voldemort lol The problem is the photo That too, and I want a more polished, high-end image, so I decided to look into surgery For now, I’m planning to use silicone and autologous costal cartilage Last week at Finish, I had an X-ray for autologous rib cartilage, and fortunately there was no calcification, and they said my bones are as thick as a man’s, so it would be good material for the nose ●Made Young, Gurmungun <doctor consultation about 20 min, consultation fee none> There seems to be bending or shape distortion of the nasal bone due to the history of double jaw surgery The white spots on the CT at the nasal tip could be calcified septal cartilage used for the tip, or it could be that something other than septal cartilage was used in the first surgery The silicone itself is not that high, but the starting point was placed much higher than expected, so it makes the nose look long The solution is to lower the starting point, correct the bend, and raise the tip a lot and keep it from drooping so the nose looks shorter When I said the frontal nostrils are very visible, he said he would lower the alae with cartilage or dermis When I asked whether lowering the alae would make the nose look longer, he said no The columella is already well exposed, and the nasolabial angle is a bit upturned, so lowering the alae and only slightly lowering the nasolabial angle would be better proportionally (within the range where the nose does not look long) Keep the bridge height but lower the starting point so the nose looks shorter is the right approach The Shin Se-kyung nose is not recommended because it would require a higher bridge When I said I wanted a Shin Se-kyung nose even from the front and asked whether using a slightly wider silicone bridge would help, he said even if it is wider, he would only use something about 1 mm wider To get a frontal Shin Se-kyung nose, the columella has to stay as is + the bridge has to be widened + the alae have to be lowered When I asked about the other hospitals saying I would need septal reconstruction, he said you can’t know until you open it up (probably because the bones loosen after double jaw surgery?) He said they would open it up, and if necessary they would add autologous rib cartilage to the bridge and raise it. If they do that, the nasal width becomes wider, so there would be no need to widen the silicone. In any case, you have to open it to know When I mentioned that another hospital talked about a perforation behind the nose, he looked at the CT and said it is not a perforation yet, but that the mucosa has become very thin (they need to be careful during surgery. There is a high chance it could tear during surgery, but he said it can be sewn back up;;) At one hospital (Weverse), when I showed them the nose of Hwa-min (an Instagram celebrity?), they said Hwa-min has a short glabella length and a flatter face, while my glabella is long and my face is more convex, so Shin Se-kyung’s nose would suit my face better. He said there is no separate issue of whether it suits or not; if I make the bridge much higher like Shin Se-kyung, the nose would look even longer Doctor Gurmungun actually said a low bridge and a higher nose tip like Hwa-min would suit me better For lowering the alae: ear cartilage For the nose tip: ear cartilage on top of autologous rib cartilage (to reduce show-through) I asked whether my forehead being so protruding would make it look strange if the bridge starting point were aligned, and he said that since the bridge height is maintained and only the starting point is lowered, there won’t be a major change I worried that my philtrum would look longer, and he said that if the columella is reduced, the philtrum can look a bit shorter by illusion, but if the columella is kept as is, the philtrum would look longer; since I’m keeping the columella as is, it shouldn’t matter The incision under the nose would use the existing incision line 그대로 ★Final coordinator consultation The hospital and the doctor both have more than 10 years of experience, and she said she has worked as the coordinator here for more than 5 years It is general anesthesia, and three anesthesiology doctors are stationed there When I asked how many surgeries the doctor does per day, she said for revision cases it’s two per day, and for first-time cases up to three per day CCTV viewing is free and available for up to one month AS is 1 year The cost is 8.36 million KRW, but if you do partial disclosure + write a review, it becomes 6 million KRW as an event price If you reserve on the same day, it becomes 5.6 million KRW; I put down a 100,000 KRW deposit and they said it would all be refunded later, so I left the deposit I was tempted by the price lol Ah, but here they also take pretty beautified mugshot-style photos lol I said the lighting was a bit different, but I was surprised how pretty my photo looked lol ●Private, Doctor Lee Jun-woo <doctor consultation 30 min, no consultation fee> It’s not that the nose is long, it’s that the midface is long When assessing nose length, you look at the height of the glabella and the nasolabial angle My nasolabial angle is relatively wide, so if you only look at the nose tip, it is not a severely long nose However, because the glabella is relatively high, it does give a long-looking impression The problem is that on the side profile, the forehead is high, but if the glabella becomes relatively too low, that is also a problem From the front, it seems right to lower the glabella to improve the long-looking impression.. The silicone is about 5 mm, but because it is positioned at an angle, it is not that high There is room to reduce the height, but it cannot be lowered a lot Lowering it by about 1 to 2 mm is fine The concept of lowering the starting point does not mean dragging the implant down to lower it; it just means replacing the implant with a lower one It’s not actually lowering the silicone’s position, but ultimately adjusting the glabella height (If the implant itself tapers thinner toward the tip, then it is possible to lower the silicone position within the range where it won’t lift off) My implant has a thick tip In any case, considering my forehead height, slightly lowering the glabella is okay, but lowering it too much is not good and the nose tip will rise a lot A Hwa-min nose is possible because the skin is soft and stretches well, so it can be raised enough However, since the skin is thin, if needed they would add AlloDerm (donor dermis) on top of the internal scar tissue or if there is not enough material The bend in my columella is the limit of the septal cartilage, so he sometimes recommends costal cartilage even for first surgeries Septal reconstruction? They would stand the autologous rib cartilage upright (and if necessary on both sides) and secure it to establish a solid height base The nose tip must definitely use my own cartilage They would reuse the septal cartilage used in the first surgery on top of the autologous rib cartilage, and if that doesn’t work, they would use autologous rib cartilage for the tip To fill the gap between the silicone and the tip cartilage, they would place scar tissue over it, and if that is not enough, they would add AlloDerm to increase skin thickness The alae are also somewhat pulled upward by the lateral cartilage, but the cartilage length itself is weak. If surgery is done, cartilage would need to be added, but then the nose tip becomes round and bulging If you want a sharp, elevated front view, that would be a negative factor (optional) Because the midface is long, they would lower the lateral cartilage somewhat, but they can’t lower it too much or the nose will look longer Even without adding cartilage, they can lower it to some extent, but not drastically The philtrum length won’t change much The angle of the columella itself is not something they would intentionally lower a lot; it just looks slightly lifted because of scar tissue They shouldn’t lower the columella any more because the nostrils are already raised, otherwise the gap will become larger and the nose will look longer and the arrow-shaped nose tip when smiling will get worse If possible, they would cut out the scar tissue and push inward, and if not, they would need to push it out with autologous rib cartilage When I mentioned septal reconstruction, he said you can’t know until you open it up (he said it was probably because the columella is shaky) When I mentioned the perforation, he said there were cases with perforations even farther forward than mine, and as long as you don’t touch it, it’s fine The incision will use the existing incision line. The current scar is already severe, so it is hard to get worse My upper teeth are not very visible, and I asked whether they would be even less visible after nose surgery, and he said only at first; over time the skin stretches, so it won’t matter. He said it has little to do with the lips The silicone width does not come in millimeter units If I ask for the widest one, they can use it After opening it up, they can use something wider than the existing silicone I said my nose seems a little slim now, so I wanted to use something a bit wider, but from the doctor’s perspective he didn’t really know, and said it was a matter of personal taste so I should choose I did like that they don’t harvest the ear here (because if they harvest the ear, washing your hair becomes hard..), but since they said they might use donor dermis if my scar tissue is insufficient, that made me hesitate If I have surgery, the amount of change will be large; my nose tip is drooping too much right now ★Final coordinator consultation Surgery time estimated at 4 hours, with sleep anesthesia AS 1 year CCTV is free and must be requested the day before surgery The cost is 8.36 million KRW; with partial disclosure + review event it is 7.7 million KRW; if you reserve on the same day it is 7.2 million KRW (deposit 720,000 KRW, and if you cancel later, only 90% is refunded) Nasal packing comes out on day 3 At week 1, the splint is removed and the doctor checks you At week 2, the rib sutures are removed and the doctor checks you ●Mint, one-doctor clinic <This consultation was under 10 minutes, consultation fee 10,000 KRW> They don’t even take a CT here, and the coordinator too, everything feels very analog It cannot become a short nose because the face is long, so it has no choice but to be long The only way to shorten it somewhat is to lower the starting point The silicone needs to be removed or lowered The bridge shows silicone too much, so lowering it is the right thing to do Lowering the bridge while slightly lifting the tip is better The bent columella is due to the double jaw surgery, so there is a high chance it won’t be fixed; it can’t be corrected The bent bridge can be corrected about 70% The nasolabial angle is normal If the columella is lowered, it becomes longer, so that won’t do; think of it as moving forward No matter how the surgery is done, it won’t become like Shin Se-kyung lolllll If, during surgery, they remove the silicone and I like how it looks, they’ll leave it out, and if not, they’ll insert a lower silicone, but there isn’t much difference between removing it and putting in a lower one If that’s the case, they said it’s better to just remove it If the forehead is too protruding and there is a big difference when the silicone is removed, wouldn’t it look strange? I asked, and they said there will be a big difference, but if I hate a long nose, there is no choice If I hate the gap between forehead and glabella, they said to keep the long nose and just correct the bent nose If possible, they will reuse the cartilage, and if not, they’ll use ear cartilage The reason the lower part of the silicone is showing a lot is that they’ll use ear cartilage to change the structure so it won’t show If the silicone is removed, they’ll add dermis The nostrils cannot be corrected The nose tip is pointed right now, so it seems better to spread the cartilage a bit and make it slightly fuller If the nose tip is raised, the nasolabial angle will rise a bit more, so they’ll lower it slightly to keep it similar to now Because the silicone has rotated and shaved the bone, they need to correct the bent nasal bone and then place the silicone If I want to feel that my nose has become shorter, they recommend removing the silicone If I’m okay with it being similar to now or even very slightly shorter, I should use silicone He seemed a bit bothered, so I couldn’t ask everything I had prepared and just came out thinking I couldn’t have surgery here, and I said I had no more questions ★Final coordinator consultation Local anesthesia AS 3 years The cost is 8.8 million KRW; if you reserve on the same day, it is 8.6 million KRW ●Ppli, one-doctor clinic, re-consultation <The first consultation felt like about 1 hour, and the re-consultation was 30 min, no consultation fee> The prior consultation content was: Use a custom silicone implant (Fitmi Nose) to lower the bridge starting point as much as possible and correct the bent nose, using a wide silicone implant (10.5 mm) For lowering the alae, lower the lateral cartilage + add ear cartilage There is a possibility of nose tip show-through, so use ear cartilage and rib fascia on top of autologous rib cartilage No changes will be made to the columella or nasolabial angle I didn’t record the first consultation, so I don’t know the detailed content; I’m only writing down what I noted while consulting ★Final coordinator consultation Surgery time 3 to 3.5 hours Sleep anesthesia AS 3 years The doctor does only two surgeries a day (10 a.m. and 2 p.m.) The cost is 9.8 million KRW + 800,000 KRW for custom silicone, but if partial disclosure is done, the total becomes 7.8 million KRW The deposit is 800,000 KRW, and because the custom implant goes into production, it is non-refundable An additional 300,000 KRW deposit has to be paid separately, and it will be refunded if I send review photos after a few months ◆From here on, this is the re-consultation content When I said there’s a rumor that custom silicone becomes thick, he said thickness can be as thin as 0.8 mm at minimum, and the rumor probably refers to width The silicone fabrication company dislikes a pencil-thin nose, so they prefer a wider placement My nose is on the thinner side I said I would keep the columella and nasolabial angle as is, but because raising the nose tip makes the nasal base look slightly upturned, they said they would lower the columella, only very slightly I said I’d prefer not to lower it too much (because the nose looks long) Lowering the bridge starting point does improve the long-nose appearance Priority needs to be set; in the doctor’s opinion, reducing the long-nose look seems more important (though it doesn’t look like a strongly long nose) Because of the double jaw surgery, it seems like there may be no bone under the nose on CT? So they may need to anchor the support deeper I said the columella seems okay but looks a bit sunken because of scar tissue, and he said they would just leave it as is He said that doing anything special to remove scar tissue would probably be worse, so they would open along the existing incision line as is The long philtrum and the upper teeth not showing much are not specifically related to the nose To prevent nose tip show-through and redness, fascia is added, but even then it may still show through When I asked about lowering the alae and whether that would make the nose too bulky, he said they would push the lateral cartilage with ear cartilage and also do skin dissection, so the boundary layer may soften somewhat Because the skin is thin, he doesn’t think it will disappear entirely or become thicker than a Shin Se-kyung nose When I asked whether a frontal Shin Se-kyung nose is possible, he said Not exactly the same but if we use a wide silicone, it should be okay If the previous surgery’s pinching is released, it should improve (you have to open it to know) When I asked whether the nose tip is pointy, he said it feels more thin than pointy Overall, from the bridge to the tip, it is on the thin side When I asked whether surgery would have a big effect and make it look more polished, he said it would have an effect; it is too slim now and the implant is visible, so it needs improvement When I asked whether the face would also look smaller after nose surgery, he said no lol When I asked whether lowering the glabella would look strange because the forehead is protruding, he said lowering it this much probably wouldn’t look awkward The front-view effect seems good because the bent nose is made straight and the thinness is also corrected ~ ●The Hada, one-doctor clinic <doctor consultation 27 min, consultation fee 20,000 KRW> I want the nose tip to be higher, but also fuller? That’s not easy The higher the nose, the thinner and more pointed the skin becomes If you use a wider cartilage plate to add to the nose tip, it can be widened But rather than a plump nose-tip flesh feeling, it would feel more like thick bone (a gaunt feeling?) If you want the nose tip wider, lowering the bridge starting point is the right approach My natural bridge height was not originally extremely low, and the silicone is not placed very thickly The midface is long and the nostrils themselves also feel lifted.. Do the nostrils poking upward bother you? Shin Se-kyung also has that kind of feeling a bit (??) In cases like this, sometimes it is easier to fix than expected, but depending on the skin, sometimes it doesn’t work, and in many cases it more often doesn’t work Cartilage graft alar lowering is actually not dramatic Korean people often have skin or thickness that is somewhat thick and strong, and the lateral cartilage underneath is itself small Because it’s small, even if you add grafts, the pushing force is weak, so Unless the cartilage is very large and the skin is soft, with enough receiving force and stretch capacity, it only becomes somewhat softer But the reason I need it is that if I do alar-lowering cartilage grafts, the nose tip becomes a bit bigger, which matches the direction I want somewhat, so it’s okay to do People say why not wrap the bone broadly with a custom implant and make the bridge thick like Shin Se-kyung, but in reality it doesn’t work that way My nasal bone itself is small, so it is only possible within limits Use dermis on top of silicone Autologous rib cartilage + dermis (though it’s largely resorbed, so not very meaningful) Cartilage graft to the alae (alar lowering) The columella was somewhat cut down, apparently, so it needs to be lowered a bit now(?) To make it like Shin Se-kyung, the columella has to be lowered When I asked whether lowering the bridge starting point and lowering the columella would make the long-nose look worse, he said it won’t become longer than now The reasons my nose looks long now are 1. the absolute length 2. the line feels thin? When I asked about nose tip show-through or redness, he said 100% lol He said that when first-surgery patients come in, he recommends they not have surgery Nose surgery never really ends once you do it Even if you don’t have surgery, the nose spreads with age When you build a pillar during surgery, the pillar can tilt or drop, and if the pillar is strong, the skin gets thinner No matter what you add, it may be okay at first, but as time passes it gets thinner and thinner If it gets thinner later, what should be done? He said try to reinforce the cartilage plate well as much as possible, and if that still doesn’t work, you have to lower the overall height, or maybe add dermis again? When I said my forehead is too protruding, he said the natural bridge wasn’t that low to begin with, so I don’t need to worry that much I asked about septal reconstruction, but the explanation was too long and I couldn’t understand it; the conclusion was that it has to be made with autologous rib cartilage.. When I asked whether lowering the columella would affect my long philtrum and the fact that my upper teeth don’t show much, he said lowering the columella creates a shadow so there can be a slight optical illusion that the philtrum looks shorter; it won’t look longer If the incision scar can be cut out, they can do that if my skin has enough room (then the scar depth would go away, right) But my skin is thin and I want to raise the nose tip, so there seems to be no room to cut it out So they would open along the existing incision line, do their best to sew together the different layers, and then I should get laser treatment later I said the columella seems to be slightly pulled in because of the scar, and he said that since they will add volume with autologous rib cartilage, it will be fine I also asked them to correct the bent columella They said it can’t be a Shin Se-kyung nose, but the angle of Hwa-min’s nose is possible lol. Shin Se-kyung’s nose is really high, so it’s not a nose that can be done on an ordinary face There won’t be a major overall image change for my face; even now my nose isn’t low The nose tip won’t become dramatically higher than now (because there isn’t much skin and the nose width itself is not wide) To look luxurious, the proportions have to match; from below it should be an equilateral triangle, but the more you raise it, the more it becomes an isosceles triangle and looks flashy When the nose tip gets higher, it feels stronger and colder. Even now I don’t have a particularly gentle impression lol The angle definitely needs to be corrected If I want autologous dermis, they can use it, but it leaves a 9 cm scar For me, a straight-ish line is good ★Final coordinator consultation The cost is 9.9 million KRW, but if I write one review, it becomes 9 million KRW AS is 1 to 2 years, and only anesthesia and material costs are charged The doctor personally checks progress every month CCTV can be viewed live by a guardian, and it can also be accessed if requested within 2 weeks They do surgery for only one person per day The doctor worked at Brown for 10 years and has been here for 5 years They provide scar laser treatment for the autologous rib cartilage scar up to 6 months, 1.5 cm scar ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Made Young’s doctor was kind and the price was attractive, so I was tempted Private was also good because the doctor kindly answered everything I asked, and I felt trust while consulting I’m skipping Mint Ppli is somehow appealing but also a bit ambiguous. I visited twice and there were no customers either time, and all the review photos they post seem to be foreigners It feels like the staff is posting reviews using photos of Southeast Asian people From what I hear in the consultation, The Hada seems to be where people with contracture or side effects go a lot, but when I sat in the waiting room, there were pretty people waiting for consultations It seems to pursue safety, while also accepting my needs to some extent? The more consultations I do, the more confusing it gets. They all seem similar, but with slight differences in what they say, so it’s really, really hard to choose I’m not going to look into any more hospitals now When I got consultations last week at Finish, Tiana, Ppli, and Weverse, I was leaning strongly toward Weverse Even though Hwing Seung-jo is famous, the review photos were so much my style that I had already booked a re-consultation with about 80% certainty that I would do it there. But the day before, I saw another bad review, so I canceled the Weverse re-consultation and did a Ppli re-consultation instead (Weverse was #1 in my mind, Ppli #2) That bad post said the nose tip redness lasted for months, but I can’t know what it’s like now, so they don’t seem to come to this community? But since they say that if your skin gets as thin as mine, nose tip show-through or redness is unavoidable, I wonder if I should get another re-consultation at Weverse There are also many reviews saying it’s bent, so I think maybe they don’t manage reviews here, and I don’t know